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| "anne collins" |
09:57 |
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Paul Thankyou!!! so much. The downloads were just what I needed. Tonight i know why I joined this "outfit. I am so impressed by the support given to each other..even to a question as basic as mine.
Thanks to all.
Anne c
From: paulhanton@blueyonder.co.ukTo: annecollins1@hotmail.co.ukSubject: [members] Basic Question..Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 22:34:24 +0100
Each to their own Anne..............I do take notes, particularly as I might ask quite a few scaling questions and want to be able to refer back to them..........personally I like bullet points too, especially around strengths and resources..........I have a first session 'crib sheet' on my website that you can download if you find it helpful; www.solutionfocused.org.uk
cheers,
Paul H
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From: anne collins
To: Paul
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 10:19 PM
Subject: [members] Basic Question..
I am about to experience my first one to one encounter. As a listener i have never used notes. Is it ever appropriate to jot down important points or is that inappropriate. Thanks Anne C
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| "David Hingley" |
10:46 |
09/07/2007 |
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Hello Anne,
Do you mean your first Solution Focused One-to-one encounter?! It really
is down to preference and how good your memory is. Watching some of
Insoo's tapes it's noticeable that she seemed to use her notepad
occassional to punctuate the presence of positive attributes, so it
became a therapeutic activity as well. Certainly in my practice I
started delivering written interventions that clients could take away
with them and that had evolved from noting down the strengths and
emerging goals. Many seemed to like that. I started when one client
wanted to know what I was writing down and asked for copy.
Anyway, good luck. I hope it goes well for you and it is the first of many.
David
Paul Hanton wrote:
> Each to their own Anne..............I do take notes, particularly as I
> might ask quite a few scaling questions and want to be able to refer
> back to them..........personally I like bullet points too, especially
> around strengths and resources..........I have a first session 'crib
> sheet' on my website that you can download if you find it helpful;
> www.solutionfocused.org.uk
>
>
> cheers,
>
> Paul H
>
>
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> *To:* Paul
> *Sent:* Monday, July 09, 2007 10:19 PM
> *Subject:* [members] Basic Question..
>
> I am about to experience my first one to one encounter. As a
> listener i have never used notes. Is it ever appropriate to jot
> down important points or is that inappropriate.
>
> Thanks Anne C
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| "Paul Hanton" |
10:34 |
09/07/2007 |
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Each to their own Anne..............I do take notes, particularly as I might ask quite a few scaling questions and want to be able to refer back to them..........personally I like bullet points too, especially around strengths and resources..........I have a first session 'crib sheet' on my website that you can download if you find it helpful; www.solutionfocused.org.uk
cheers,
Paul H
----- Original Message -----
From: anne collins
To: Paul
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 10:19 PM
Subject: [members] Basic Question..
I am about to experience my first one to one encounter. As a listener i have never used notes. Is it ever appropriate to jot down important points or is that inappropriate.
Thanks Anne C
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| "anne collins" |
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I am about to experience my first one to one encounter. As a listener i have never used notes. Is it ever appropriate to jot down important points or is that inappropriate.
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| "RAYMOND FRANCIS" |
09:54 |
10/07/2007 |
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Paul
I agree with you on the SBFT/CBT comment, I am off the mind if it helps then great as the whole point of the therapy is to help the person who it is being used on. what I am trying to work out is why is not SBFT considered as well within the same context, I am working with a CBT trained doctor, not once has the doctor asked should we use SBFT, still that is a question for me to reflect on. (I know when CBT is mention it could be seen as a taboo subject)
I guess you are right when it comes to training, it is the same about student nurses we may have 10 in a short time and with that time only about 3 will want to know more and ask the questions.
as for the quiet revolution you never know! (lol)
-Raymond
----- Original Message ----
From: Paul Hanton
To: raymond
Sent: Tuesday, 10 July, 2007 10:30:56 AM
Subject: [members] Basic Question..
Hi Raymond, firstly, glad you feel able to join in, i welcome more of your contributions.
I often work with trainees (in a psychology department) who are on the 1st, 2nd or 3rd year of a psychology degree, and some postgraduates.........and the questions they ask me often leave me taking a step back and having a long hard think, which is invariably useful for me.
As for the CBT/SFBT debate, forgive my flippancy but I really tire of the debate and tend not to get into it these days...........I prefer to go my merry way, churning out the outcomes and hopefully the powers that be eventually notice............don't forget, CBT is useful when it's useful.
I have worked with many nurses and mental health professionals in a training role and kinda think, for every 10 that do not pursue SFBT, 1 might, interestingly there are at least 2 people on this list that joined after working with me, one in a trainee role, and 1 from a training event (there may even be more), and there are many people that have worked with other members on this list...........maybe a is the way to go, if those 2 folks influence another 2 folk and so on....we will get there eventually, lol
growing more mellow day by day, lol
Paul H
----- Original Message -----
From: RAYMOND FRANCIS
To: Paul
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 9:53 AM
Subject: [members] Basic Question..
is there a bad way? I am only joking. I tend to look at everything in a good way.....................ok I try to!
I have been in the shadows reading all the posts and only now feel able to join in. What you are saying reminds of my student nurses as I also learn from them for they ask such simple questions, questions that are taken for granted and at times are not really understood.
one of my pet hates at the moment is that SBFT despite seeing loads of mail, it is not considered and thought of in a good light within my job role,I know of three people who have trained in SBFT and do not use it in their work. yet we have a doctor who is CBT trained and this is considered `wow`. I guess I can not talk about others only my own work, but why train and not be able to use it and just why is CBT considered the theapy to use, could not someone have CBT sessions and also SBFT sessions, or is this an over load?
-Raymond
----- Original Message ----
From: Paul Hanton
To: raymond
Sent: Tuesday, 10 July, 2007 8:44:59 AM
Subject: [members] Basic Question..
in a good way?
Paul H
----- Original Message -----
From: RAYMOND FRANCIS
To: Paul
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 8:37 AM
Subject: [members] Basic Question..
Paul,
I guess that kind of answers my own thoughts and fears.
-Raymond
----- Original Message ----
From: Paul Hanton
To: raymond
Sent: Tuesday, 10 July, 2007 8:20:50 AM
Subject: [members] Basic Question..
Someone once told me Anne, can't remember who, that people new to an approach often have better results than 'old hacks', whether that is true or not i don't know, what I do know is that when i work with trainees and people new to the approach, i often learn loads.............never be afraid to ask 'basic' questions, or be afraid to question the basics............we need folks like you,
best wishes,
Paul H
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| "Paul Hanton" |
10:39 |
10/07/2007 |
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See below:
----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Ford
To: Paul Hanton
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 10:34 AM
Subject: FW: [members] Basic Question..
Hi Paul could you send this response on to the list as I am still having probs getting through
Cheers Tony
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From: Tony Ford
Sent: 10 July 2007 10:23
To: 'members@ukasfp.co.uk'
Subject: RE: [members] Basic Question..
Hi Anne, Personally I would never go into a session with out a pad or foolscap to make jottings and important points from our session.
I do this for several reasons.
1), to help us monitor aspects of the client's journey, noting the significant exceptions to the problem, etc
2) to share the mutual understanding and relationship of issues arising both inside and outside the problem,(including risks)
3) to provide a record of our progress including resources and abilities, scaling, needs hopes and plans for the solution behaviour,
4) and to provide the client with a map of our progress, dates and agreements should the client wish to return for a further session.
(I cannot ever remember over the last 20 years in the business of helping others when the client didn't want the jottings we made for
their reference, its important to remember that most clients find the process of helping and self disclosure anxiety provoking if not
exciting and find it useful to look back over the general issues discussed, particularly the solutions we have generated !)
5) finally, should the referral agent, or service need an assessment of the interview or clients outcome then I occasionally photo copy our notes and send them a copy with the clients permission.
Regards Tony
Lecturer / Psychotherapist.
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| "Paul Hanton" |
10:30 |
10/07/2007 |
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Hi Raymond, firstly, glad you feel able to join in, i welcome more of your contributions.
I often work with trainees (in a psychology department) who are on the 1st, 2nd or 3rd year of a psychology degree, and some postgraduates.........and the questions they ask me often leave me taking a step back and having a long hard think, which is invariably useful for me.
As for the CBT/SFBT debate, forgive my flippancy but I really tire of the debate and tend not to get into it these days...........I prefer to go my merry way, churning out the outcomes and hopefully the powers that be eventually notice............don't forget, CBT is useful when it's useful.
I have worked with many nurses and mental health professionals in a training role and kinda think, for every 10 that do not pursue SFBT, 1 might, interestingly there are at least 2 people on this list that joined after working with me, one in a trainee role, and 1 from a training event (there may even be more), and there are many people that have worked with other members on this list...........maybe a quiet revolution is the way to go, if those 2 folks influence another 2 folk and so on....we will get there eventually, lol
growing more mellow day by day, lol
Paul H
----- Original Message -----
From: RAYMOND FRANCIS
To: Paul
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 9:53 AM
Subject: [members] Basic Question..
is there a bad way? I am only joking. I tend to look at everything in a good way.....................ok I try to!
I have been in the shadows reading all the posts and only now feel able to join in. What you are saying reminds of my student nurses as I also learn from them for they ask such simple questions, questions that are taken for granted and at times are not really understood.
one of my pet hates at the moment is that SBFT despite seeing loads of mail, it is not considered and thought of in a good light within my job role,I know of three people who have trained in SBFT and do not use it in their work. yet we have a doctor who is CBT trained and this is considered `wow`. I guess I can not talk about others only my own work, but why train and not be able to use it and just why is CBT considered the theapy to use, could not someone have CBT sessions and also SBFT sessions, or is this an over load?
-Raymond
----- Original Message ----
From: Paul Hanton
To: raymond
Sent: Tuesday, 10 July, 2007 8:44:59 AM
Subject: [members] Basic Question..
in a good way?
Paul H
----- Original Message -----
From: RAYMOND FRANCIS
To: Paul
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 8:37 AM
Subject: [members] Basic Question..
Paul,
I guess that kind of answers my own thoughts and fears.
-Raymond
----- Original Message ----
From: Paul Hanton
To: raymond
Sent: Tuesday, 10 July, 2007 8:20:50 AM
Subject: [members] Basic Question..
Someone once told me Anne, can't remember who, that people new to an approach often have better results than 'old hacks', whether that is true or not i don't know, what I do know is that when i work with trainees and people new to the approach, i often learn loads.............never be afraid to ask 'basic' questions, or be afraid to question the basics............we need folks like you,
best wishes,
Paul H
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| "RAYMOND FRANCIS" |
09:08 |
10/07/2007 |
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Hi Anne
you have made me reflect about note taking, I have always tended to shy away from note taking this could be due to my at times unreadable writing, and also due to not really having an ideal moment to have sessions. But what if the note taking could be used as a strength tool and used in the context of therapy, and then it is back to that thought `if it works` what ever works best for you, then go along with the flow. it reminds me of the cup a tea therapy, the tea is offered as a settler and not out of politeness.
by the way let me also wish you good luck
-Raymond
----- Original Message ----
From: "Widdop, Irene"
To: raymond
Sent: Tuesday, 10 July, 2007 8:52:20 AM
Subject: [members] Basic Question..
Hi Anne,
I use notes and usually say something like ' I will jot down some things as we go along as I don't have a good enough memory to remember everything we talk about !!', this usually makes folks laugh as it's often a difficulty in concentration or worry about memory that is a worry for them, which they want to talk about! I do feel it helps me note down things for a possible noticing task between sessions and reminds me when I am summing up, what strengths and interests ware expressed. As I am still very much 'green L plates' with this approach, my crib sheet helps me remember what to ask too!
Good luck!
Irene
-----Original Message-----
From: members@ukasfp.co.uk [mailto:members@ukasfp.co.uk] On Behalf Of anne collins
Sent: 09 July 2007 22:58
To: Widdop, Irene
Subject: [members] Basic Question..
Paul Thankyou!!! so much. The downloads were just what I needed. Tonight i know why I joined this "outfit. I am so impressed by the support given to each other..even to a question as basic as mine.
Thanks to all.
Anne c
From: paulhanton@blueyonder.co.uk
To: annecollins1@hotmail.co.uk
Subject: [members] Basic Question..
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 22:34:24 +0100
Each to their own Anne..............I do take notes, particularly as I might ask quite a few scaling questions and want to be able to refer back to them..........personally I like bullet points too, especially around strengths and resources..........I have a first session 'crib sheet' on my website that you can download if you find it helpful; www.solutionfocused.org.uk
cheers,
Paul H
----- Original Message -----
From: anne collins
To: Paul
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 10:19 PM
Subject: [members] Basic Question..
I am about to experience my first one to one encounter. As a listener i have never used notes. Is it ever appropriate to jot down important points or is that inappropriate.
Thanks Anne C
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| "RAYMOND FRANCIS" |
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is there a bad way? I am only joking. I tend to look at everything in a good way.....................ok I try to!
I have been in the shadows reading all the posts and only now feel able to join in. What you are saying reminds of my student nurses as I also learn from them for they ask such simple questions, questions that are taken for granted and at times are not really understood.
one of my pet hates at the moment is that SBFT despite seeing loads of mail, it is not considered and thought of in a good light within my job role,I know of three people who have trained in SBFT and do not use it in their work. yet we have a doctor who is CBT trained and this is considered `wow`. I guess I can not talk about others only my own work, but why train and not be able to use it and just why is CBT considered the theapy to use, could not someone have CBT sessions and also SBFT sessions, or is this an over load?
-Raymond
----- Original Message ----
From: Paul Hanton
To: raymond
Sent: Tuesday, 10 July, 2007 8:44:59 AM
Subject: [members] Basic Question..
in a good way?
Paul H
----- Original Message -----
From: RAYMOND FRANCIS
To: Paul
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 8:37 AM
Subject: [members] Basic Question..
Paul,
I guess that kind of answers my own thoughts and fears.
-Raymond
----- Original Message ----
From: Paul Hanton
To: raymond
Sent: Tuesday, 10 July, 2007 8:20:50 AM
Subject: [members] Basic Question..
Someone once told me Anne, can't remember who, that people new to an approach often have better results than 'old hacks', whether that is true or not i don't know, what I do know is that when i work with trainees and people new to the approach, i often learn loads.............never be afraid to ask 'basic' questions, or be afraid to question the basics............we need folks like you,
best wishes,
Paul H
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| "Widdop, Irene" |
09:10 |
10/07/2007 |
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You might be interested in a 'mini' conference we are we are planning in
Aberdeen, toward the end of October. I will post information online once
it is organised!
Irene
-----Original Message-----
From: members@ukasfp.co.uk [mailto:members@ukasfp.co.uk] On
Behalf Of anne collins
Sent: 10 July 2007 08:59
To: Widdop, Irene
Subject: [members] Basic Question..
Thanks Irene...
good to know there are other "L plates" around. i am really
excited about this approach, and will undertake further training in
Glasgow with"Brief" in December. I'm learning so much just by tuning in
to e-mails. It amazes me that people take the time out to respond to
such basic questions. i don't think i would ask this on a training
course and i'm a long in the tooth teacher..early retired...i stress the
early!
Thanks again
Anne
________________________________
Subject: [members] Basic Question..
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 08:52:20 +0100
From: Irene.Widdop@ggc.scot.nhs.uk
To: annecollins1@hotmail.co.uk
Hi Anne,
I use notes and usually say something like ' I will jot
down some things as we go along as I don't have a good enough memory to
remember everything we talk about !!', this usually makes folks laugh as
it's often a difficulty in concentration or worry about memory that is a
worry for them, which they want to talk about! I do feel it helps me
note down things for a possible noticing task between sessions and
reminds me when I am summing up, what strengths and interests ware
expressed. As I am still very much 'green L plates' with this approach,
my crib sheet helps me remember what to ask too!
Good luck!
Irene
-----Original Message-----
From: members@ukasfp.co.uk
[mailto:members@ukasfp.co.uk] On Behalf Of anne collins
Sent: 09 July 2007 22:58
To: Widdop, Irene
Subject: [members] Basic Question..
Paul Thankyou!!! so much. The downloads were
just what I needed. Tonight i know why I joined this "outfit. I am so
impressed by the support given to each other..even to a question as
basic as mine.
Thanks to all.
Anne c
________________________________
From: paulhanton@blueyonder.co.uk
To: annecollins1@hotmail.co.uk
Subject: [members] Basic Question..
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 22:34:24 +0100
Each to their own Anne..............I do
take notes, particularly as I might ask quite a few scaling questions
and want to be able to refer back to them..........personally I like
bullet points too, especially around strengths and resources..........I
have a first session 'crib sheet' on my website that you can download if
you find it helpful; www.solutionfocused.org.uk
cheers,
Paul H
----- Original Message -----
From: anne collins
To: Paul
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 10:19 PM
Subject: [members] Basic Question..
I am about to experience my first one to
one encounter. As a listener i have never used notes. Is it ever
appropriate to jot down important points or is that inappropriate.
Thanks Anne C
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Thanks Irene...
good to know there are other "L plates" around. i am really excited about this approach, and will undertake further training in Glasgow with"Brief" in December. I'm learning so much just by tuning in to e-mails. It amazes me that people take the time out to respond to such basic questions. i don't think i would ask this on a training course and i'm a long in the tooth teacher..early retired...i stress the early!
Thanks again
Anne
Subject: [members] Basic Question..Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 08:52:20 +0100From: Irene.Widdop@ggc.scot.nhs.ukTo: annecollins1@hotmail.co.uk
Hi Anne,
I use notes and usually say something like ' I will jot down some things as we go along as I don't have a good enough memory to remember everything we talk about !!', this usually makes folks laugh as it's often a difficulty in concentration or worry about memory that is a worry for them, which they want to talk about! I do feel it helps me note down things for a possible noticing task between sessions and reminds me when I am summing up, what strengths and interests ware expressed. As I am still very much 'green L plates' with this approach, my crib sheet helps me remember what to ask too!
Good luck!
Irene
-----Original Message-----From: members@ukasfp.co.uk [mailto:members@ukasfp.co.uk] On Behalf Of anne collinsSent: 09 July 2007 22:58To: Widdop, IreneSubject: [members] Basic Question..Paul Thankyou!!! so much. The downloads were just what I needed. Tonight i know why I joined this "outfit. I am so impressed by the support given to each other..even to a question as basic as mine.Thanks to all.Anne c
From: paulhanton@blueyonder.co.ukTo: annecollins1@hotmail.co.ukSubject: [members] Basic Question..Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 22:34:24 +0100
Each to their own Anne..............I do take notes, particularly as I might ask quite a few scaling questions and want to be able to refer back to them..........personally I like bullet points too, especially around strengths and resources..........I have a first session 'crib sheet' on my website that you can download if you find it helpful; www.solutionfocused.org.uk
cheers,
Paul H
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Subject: [members] Basic Question..
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| "Widdop, Irene" |
08:52 |
10/07/2007 |
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Hi Anne,
I use notes and usually say something like ' I will jot down some things
as we go along as I don't have a good enough memory to remember
everything we talk about !!', this usually makes folks laugh as it's
often a difficulty in concentration or worry about memory that is a
worry for them, which they want to talk about! I do feel it helps me
note down things for a possible noticing task between sessions and
reminds me when I am summing up, what strengths and interests ware
expressed. As I am still very much 'green L plates' with this approach,
my crib sheet helps me remember what to ask too!
Good luck!
Irene
-----Original Message-----
From: members@ukasfp.co.uk [mailto:members@ukasfp.co.uk] On
Behalf Of anne collins
Sent: 09 July 2007 22:58
To: Widdop, Irene
Subject: [members] Basic Question..
Paul Thankyou!!! so much. The downloads were just what I needed.
Tonight i know why I joined this "outfit. I am so impressed by the
support given to each other..even to a question as basic as mine.
Thanks to all.
Anne c
________________________________
From: paulhanton@blueyonder.co.uk
To: annecollins1@hotmail.co.uk
Subject: [members] Basic Question..
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 22:34:24 +0100
Each to their own Anne..............I do take notes,
particularly as I might ask quite a few scaling questions and want to be
able to refer back to them..........personally I like bullet points too,
especially around strengths and resources..........I have a first
session 'crib sheet' on my website that you can download if you find it
helpful; www.solutionfocused.org.uk
cheers,
Paul H
----- Original Message -----
From: anne collins
To: Paul
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 10:19 PM
Subject: [members] Basic Question..
I am about to experience my first one to one
encounter. As a listener i have never used notes. Is it ever appropriate
to jot down important points or is that inappropriate.
Thanks Anne C
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| "Paul Hanton" |
08:44 |
10/07/2007 |
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in a good way?
Paul H
----- Original Message -----
From: RAYMOND FRANCIS
To: Paul
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 8:37 AM
Subject: [members] Basic Question..
Paul,
I guess that kind of answers my own thoughts and fears.
-Raymond
----- Original Message ----
From: Paul Hanton
To: raymond
Sent: Tuesday, 10 July, 2007 8:20:50 AM
Subject: [members] Basic Question..
Someone once told me Anne, can't remember who, that people new to an approach often have better results than 'old hacks', whether that is true or not i don't know, what I do know is that when i work with trainees and people new to the approach, i often learn loads.............never be afraid to ask 'basic' questions, or be afraid to question the basics............we need folks like you,
best wishes,
Paul H
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| "RAYMOND FRANCIS" |
07:37 |
10/07/2007 |
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Paul,
I guess that kind of answers my own thoughts and fears.
-Raymond
----- Original Message ----
From: Paul Hanton
To: raymond
Sent: Tuesday, 10 July, 2007 8:20:50 AM
Subject: [members] Basic Question..
Someone once told me Anne, can't remember who, that people new to an approach often have better results than 'old hacks', whether that is true or not i don't know, what I do know is that when i work with trainees and people new to the approach, i often learn loads.............never be afraid to ask 'basic' questions, or be afraid to question the basics............we need folks like you,
best wishes,
Paul H
----- Original Message -----
From: anne collins
To: Paul
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 10:57 PM
Subject: [members] Basic Question..
Paul Thankyou!!! so much. The downloads were just what I needed. Tonight i know why I joined this "outfit. I am so impressed by the support given to each other..even to a question as basic as mine.
Thanks to all.
Anne c
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| "Paul Hanton" |
08:20 |
10/07/2007 |
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Someone once told me Anne, can't remember who, that people new to an approach often have better results than 'old hacks', whether that is true or not i don't know, what I do know is that when i work with trainees and people new to the approach, i often learn loads.............never be afraid to ask 'basic' questions, or be afraid to question the basics............we need folks like you,
best wishes,
Paul H
----- Original Message -----
From: anne collins
To: Paul
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 10:57 PM
Subject: [members] Basic Question..
Paul Thankyou!!! so much. The downloads were just what I needed. Tonight i know why I joined this "outfit. I am so impressed by the support given to each other..even to a question as basic as mine.
Thanks to all.
Anne c
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| "Mark Allenby" |
12:13 |
10/07/2007 |
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I agree with some of the other posters that it really
is a matter of personal choice.
Two contradictory points to ponder.
1) You cannot fully attend to an person and a note
book at the same time. If you want to give exquiste
attention for the whole of a session then note taking
is out.
2) What we write down is what we think is important,
and people notice what we write down. Therefore when
we write down strengths, successes, skills and so on
people notice that we notice those things are
especially important, and they give us more.
Hope that helps.
Mark
--- anne collins wrote:
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> I am about to experience my first one to one
> encounter. As a listener i have never used notes. Is
> it ever appropriate to jot down important points or
> is that inappropriate.
>
> Thanks Anne C
>
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| "greg vinnicombe" |
08:23 |
10/07/2007 |
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Me and thee tomorrow?
Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Hanton
To: Greg
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 8:20 AM
Subject: [members] Basic Question..
Someone once told me Anne, can't remember who, that people new to an approach often have better results than 'old hacks', whether that is true or not i don't know, what I do know is that when i work with trainees and people new to the approach, i often learn loads.............never be afraid to ask 'basic' questions, or be afraid to question the basics............we need folks like you,
best wishes,
Paul H
----- Original Message -----
From: anne collins
To: Paul
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 10:57 PM
Subject: [members] Basic Question..
Paul Thankyou!!! so much. The downloads were just what I needed. Tonight i know why I joined this "outfit. I am so impressed by the support given to each other..even to a question as basic as mine.
Thanks to all.
Anne c
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